Look at fluxer it’s stoat developed by someone who isn’t retarded. Has done more in a fraction of the time and actually has functional features

See the problem is the details keep getting higher res, but we also never stopped to ask if 32 tentacles was too much…

It is a distro thing. It requires configuration and most good distros have it pre-configured.

That in community apps, third party hardware and a bunch of other nice cities still don’t have good support unless you’re on Arch.

Things are starting to support Fedora, but it’s unlikely that we’ll ever see a lot of the more niche stuff support something like Debian.

This is mostly VR stuff tho.

It is annoying how often I find that pre-compiled binaries are only available on the aur. And if you want to install a community application for a game, you basically have to compile it from source for anything else.

Super annoying

Debian is the absolute goat so long as your work flow fits inside of the scope of Debian which 99% of everybody’s well, even most regular normal gamers will do just fine in Debian using flat packs.

You just have to also accept the fact that if you’re doing something niche like VR gaming or using weird third-party custom hardware or something Debian sucks ass. A lot of my VR kit straight up doesn’t even support anything that uses apt.

It only supports Fedora and Arch. Because a lot of it straight up will not work with flat pack anything. There’s just no support and s*** brakes constantly. You need up-to-date libraries and some of these libraries update multiple times a week. It’s just not inside the scope of something like Debian.

Always try Debian first. If it doesn’t work then try something else. It’s usually the best rule of thumb.

Because till recently gaming on Linux was a f****** joke and meant being really easy to install and basically a derivative of Ubuntu without having to deal with canonical made it a popular choice for all of the long-time Linux uses. So it’s just what they suggested.

In reality meant is no better than just telling people to install Ubuntu or Debian if they want to game. If you just play older games then it’s whatever and it doesn’t really matter. But if you’re trying to do some niche gaming like VR or something, basically anything that uses apt is a massive pain in the f****** ass

Sure it works but you almost always end up waiting months longer than everyone else for fixes and considering some things can get updated multiple times a week for major fixes. Having to wait months for a big cumulative thing is just not okay.

Definitely! So if you’re using specialized hardware or software or third-party apps. A lot of stuff has actually gone to the point where they don’t even support Debian and Ubuntu or other activate systems. They only support Fedora or Arch

Since those are the only ones that really ever have a up-to-date libraries to actually be usable for purpose without having to do a bunch of funky s***.

Debian like normal is your best option if it works for you, it is the most reliable that you can really get. But the moment something is outside of scope of it. You’re almost always better off just using literally anything f****** else.

Even Debian unstable can be months behind a lot of fixes for gaming related things.

VR for example is a fucking nightmare in general but God FUCK you wait months behind fedora or arch for a lot of fixes on Debian.

With how frequently I have to wait on mesa updates, kernel updates and package updates to even hit my arch systems for functionality.

No fucking world exists where Debian with out a bunch of fucking around has 1/2 those fixes in reasonable time frame.

In fact I know they don’t cause I frequently have to put my Debian install aside to play various games because the fixes and packages required literally do not come fast enough.

Yeah but ppa and apt are the worse of all the options. Other wise you right.

Fuck ppas horrid system.

Gnome only ever gets up to get in your way.

You need countless extensions to duct tape it to a wall to remotely make it get out of your way.

You didn’t know for it’s a tale that only the kde sith would tell you. Gnome forbids such knowledge from spreading.

After helping hundreds of people over the years switch to Linux. The single most common factor literally is looks.

Doesn’t matter if something works exactly the same if it looks even slightly different. People get angry and stubborn and refuse.

It’s basically the only thing that is ever the same between helping any two people. From the most willing to learn to most unwilling.

The moment something looks different it’s like people go stupid.

As much as people fucking hate when this line gets rolled out and for good reason.

There’s a reason chronophilia is a term. Infantophilia, pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia, teleiopholia, mesophilia and gerontophilia. Are all different things.

Actually properly respecting, and using correct terminology can and should be a thing as it prevents unreasonable harm in instances where things are perfectly fine.

For example a 18 year old ephebophile. That’s fucking normal, even tho in the eyes of the law it’s punished as a sex crime. A 18 year old and a 17 year old with a 6 month gap gets fucked because we don’t actually take into account logic when it comes to this topic.

So that 18 year old is now a “pedophile” a term with horrid implications and life defining punishments legally and socially just because we all refuse to actually educate ourselves of the terminology and actual research on the topic.

Because the word pedo has such a huge social negative (for good reason) that we basically just all collectively go stupid as fuck and go straight to the worse punishment we can with out ever considering logic.

It also makes further research into the topic absurdly hard to do and secure funding for. Because of the massive social problems with attaching your name to such research.

Cause even researching it can result in you being attacked. There’s been a number of instances iv seen where research on the topic dead ends because no one is willing to actually attach their name to the subject. Or when something gets published it gets dragged through the mud because it’s a easy headline.

So we never actually find healthy and effective methods to deal with the problem. We just attack, mislabel, don’t think and cause more harm by not actually trying to deal with it. Because the problem is “icky”.

SteamOS is arch based… As a note.

CachyOS is literally what people seem to think steamOS is. Bonus points it’s not atomic.

Why would you use liBADwaita… There are perfectly reasonable alternatives.

DPS meters, trade tools, stat trackers, and a host of other tools. Full isolation is a huge pain in the ass. It’s why I hate flatpak games too. They tend to fucking suck or flat out not work at all the moment you want to use community tools.

There definitely is a line here that goes too far.

There’s always bad advice going on. That’s like the single biggest problem with the Linux community since time began.

The Linux communities biggest problem is being unable to remotely grasp the concept of good advice for “truly” new or low skilled users.

Even the best attempts still tend to fall victim to the curse of knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge

Then when you combo that with the all too frequent Dunning Krueger problem new users tend to have.

You get shit like this.

SDDM is a duct taped together mess. It’s functional in so far that it works. If your nice to it and never ask it to do anythung weird.

Had a problem like this a year ago, figured out it was because I was using display port. Some weird quirk of its protocol basically fubars it.

Switching to hdmi cables fixes the problem.

But HDMI cables have bigger issues so I just learned to deal with the problem.

Are you really complaining that community effort and team work are a bad thing…? I’m confused here, it sounds like you are. But that can’t be right.