I currently use TinyWall Firewall, it works very well, it’s small/portable, no complaints I even donated to the Dev but I would really prefer open source, also it needs to be user friendly like TinyWall so my non-tech family members can/will use it like they do with TinyWall.

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    Why are you disappointed? It was just a question out of curiosity. Nothing wrong with asking a question, this is a community centered around discussions, is it not? It’s not Stack Overflow or something, where we follow a strict question-answer format.

    It is hard for people to make transitions specially because they probably used Windows their own life. If they are asking for a FOSS firewall they most likely know they should transition to Linux at some point.

    And that is just your assumption. What if they were only using Windows to play some games, but didn’t realise that those games were now actually playable in Linux?

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      If you phrased your initial question differently or asked more details about OP’s use case I think it would be completely fine. For example, they might be the “sys admin” where they live but their family members would be extremely annoyed if they tried to push Linux.

      Just kind tired of the “you cannot ask for FOSS alternatives if you are using something proprietary” and ended up venting because of your comment, that’s all.

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      It’s not an assumption that transitioning to (Proton on) Linux is hard with no prior knowledge. An assumption is that you’re probably talking from the perspective of a tech-savvy person that doesn’t need to open a Lemmy thread to find their desired software. OP doesn’t owe you a question that computes in your head. Open Source software for Windows exists therefore it can be installed.

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        It’s not an assumption that transitioning to (Proton on) Linux is hard with no prior knowledge.

        The Proton thing was just an example. You do not know OP’s circumstances. What if they were already tech-savvy?

        OP doesn’t owe you a question

        And I don’t owe OP an answer either.

        Open Source software for Windows exists therefore it can be installed.

        Just because something exists doesn’t mean if should be installed. The question isn’t about whether or not it can be installed. That’s not the point at all.

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          don’t owe OP an answer

          Exactly. Since its dawn forums on the internet have been full of people countering legitimate questions with “why would you even ask that?”. Not only is nobody owed your “contribution”, it is of zero value.

          because something exists doesn’t mean it should be installed

          Elitist much. Why would you rather assume that a tech-savvy person is asking for tech guidance than the infinitely more likely opposite case? The answer is because you (elitist) think what works for you is the only valid path and all must be guided to your subjective treasure. Your intentions may be benign but your methods are not.

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            Elitist much. Why would you rather assume that a tech-savvy person is asking for tech guidance than the infinitely more likely opposite case?

            Assumptions much? The probably of which is higher is completely irrelevant, because it’s just an assumption, and without OP confirming it, we can keep arguing till the end of the universe.

            Your intentions may be benign but your methods are not.

            Again, assumptions, with zero evidence.

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              This is Beehaw and we aim to be a nice place, right? So to me is kind of pointless this kind of discussions and I just meant to say that your comment sounded very judgemental and it could be written in a nicer way, that’s all.

              Edit: Check OP’s new comment on the post.

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                I disagree that it was judgemental. Sure, it could’ve been written nicer, but there was no need to - it was just a simple question hinting at the irony of the situation, nothing more, nothing less. I didn’t break any rules, and if I did, the mods are free to delete my comment. The fact that they didn’t intervene - when they’re famously known to rule with an iron fist - proves that your judgment of my comment coming as “very judgemental” is your own opinon.

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                  I’m never said you were violating any rules, I was just expressing my opinion. If a person asks a question you can decide if you are going to be helpful and answer that question or make an statement regarding the irony of their question, which isn’t helpful at all.

                  You keep doing whatever you think it is best.

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                    First of all there’s no rule that the very first comment to a question has to be an answer, and that it has to be helpful in that instance - there’s always the chance that said helpful answer might come further down the chain - had OP replied to the comment.

                    Sometimes the best answers are born out of asking questions, because often the person asking the question may not be asking the right question (due to not stating all the details, or having incomplete knowledge, misconceptions etc). Regardless, it sparks a discussion, so I don’t see the problem, as long as the discussion is taking place in a civil manner and no rules are being broken. Finally, even if the discussion chain that sparked wasn’t helpful to OP, it could help someone else. Or at least entertain them. And those who can’t be bothered, can always ignore the chain, or even block the person(s) in question. So regardless, I don’t see this as a loss or a negative of any sort.