• 0 Posts
  • 16 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: July 9th, 2023

help-circle
  • My apologies, I missed a few of your questions at the end.

    • Yes, any USB4 rated cable can carry the TB protocol at whatever distance it’s rated for, otherwise it isn’t USB4.
    • Likewise any TB3 cable should work for your application, if it’s actually TB3 rated.
    • 3m is generally the max length I’ve seen. The theoretical limit may be higher but I suspect latency of the cable itself becomes a problem for PCIe tunneling, which is still a synchronous interface TMK.
    • The TB controllers decide whether your cable is sufficient. They will negotiate a link if they can both verify a nominal link speed/multiple. So the lower rated USB cables won’t work for PCIe tunneling, even if your ultimate bandwidth requirements are minimal.

    A few things to note if you’re shopping on places like AliExpress, eBay, Amazon, etc:

    • Be wary of any long (active) TB/USB cable that’s cheaper than $30.
    • Be wary of any cable that has a small connector, like one you would use to charge your phone, because the TB/USB4 connector itself must house an active signal repeater chip, making them chunkier and/or longer than usual.
    • Similarly, the shielding requirements are fairly substantial, so the cable itself should be beefier than most USB cables.
    • IME generally, PCIe over TB/USB can sometimes just be finicky. Of the 12 or 13 cables I’ve used with various combinations of machines, enclosures, docks and risers, there are occasionally some combinations that just don’t play nice, for whatever reason.












  • Maybe yeah. Also got the sense from the strong opinions that this is a preexisting debate, presumably in the context of continuous workloads or cached arrays with minimal spindown intervals. In that context it’s true that rotational disks still often win in energy efficiency and robustness (assuming we’re comparing them to consumer SSDs and not the latest enterprise u.2 stuff that’s rated for continuous work).


  • Not sure what everyone is arguing about here. Clearly SSD is better for intermittent r/w, whereas HDD can be more efficient at continuous r/w (especially in terms of watts/TB)

    Just looking at specs should be enough to see that. SSDs can idle in ready state at close to 0 draw (~0.05w) whereas HDD requires continued rotation to remain ready. So consider an extreme case of writing for 1 minute then maintaining ready state for the rest of the day. For that the SSD will be far more efficient, obviously.