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  • I pointed out how that happens already though. Firefox uses middle-click to direct a widgety thing to move the viewport. Other documents use middle click and drag to move the document. The same hand motion will move in two entirely opposite directions. I know some people get really (like REALLY) hung up on this though, and understand that. I just view it as another abstraction I get to move through.

    (Also, for me its two entirely different physical movements of grabbing the scrollbar vs scrolling with two fingers, so I don’t even notice. In one, I use middle and ring to move a document around. Another, I’m moving the mouse with a single finger, and then pressing down directly or using my thumb to click and then moving the finger.)


  • It just depends on your abstraction you’re mentally using. If you think of a sliding moving visual window on a document, then you like the scroll bar mental model. If you think of moving the content itself, then you like the phone scroll model. I have no idea which one “natural” or “inverted” is and don’t really care what the default is.

    For touchpads, give me the phone style scroll. For a mouse wheel, give me scroll bar scroll.

    It does feel weird that middle click and then move the mouse (I think Firefox does that kind?) will move the view such that down motion movies content up. But instead click and drag (okukar browse function) upward motion moves content up. Again, just depends on your abstraction in that moment.