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we’ve got monitor edge barriers! the feature i missed most from windows is here i’m so pleased!

i doubt it, i don’t see why an icon pack would have a systemd service. probably something to do with moonlight [nvidia]

still, thank you for introducing me to a new* icon pack

I have to say I like this one

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kde can still look like that too:

i really hope oxygen does get ported to plasma 6, and not dropped like the air theme has been

i must say though, as much as i prefer the look of light themes usually, i think dark themes are objectively^[1] better unless you’re in bright sunlight: images and video aren’t affected by themes, so dark themes put the focus on the media, whereas light themes can wash them out

I’m advocating about not to change defaults based on a propaganda term invented by Apple declaring all people who are not into inverted scrolling to be against nature.

it’s not a propaganda term you muppet, i was using natural scrolling long before i heard the term. the reason i use that term is that to me, “inverted scrolling” is non-inverted it’s normal; whereas “unnatural scrolling” feels weird and unnatural. also, again, natural scrolling is the same direction as a mousewheel; so if anything should be called “inverted scrolling” it’s the one that goes the opposite direction to the established paradigm

OK, cool. Then just copy Windows in everything. Ship Edge and Candy Crush by default, put a huge Bing search bar in the middle of the desktop, ignore usability basics like Fitt’s Law and center the main panel leading to the “start button” move all the fucking time, add nag screens whenever users go off the path of Microsoft-set defaults, and basically take away all arguments for “I’m annoyed by Windows, I want to move somewhere else.” Greatest idea ever…

ok i didn’t say kde should copy windows, i said that “natural scrolling is the most common behaviour”. but if you’re going to have a tantrum because somebody suggests a default (not even the only option, just a default) that you don’t like, i can’t be bothered to engage. try to read before you work yourself into a tizz next time

also for what it’s worth, windows is much better in regards to fitts’ law than any linux de i’ve used, including kde (edit: except possibly cinnamon)

well… no

the steam deck is not a laptop. the trackpads are used completely differently to a touchpad:

1. they’re used with two different thumbs - left for scroll, right for cursor
2. thumbs have a completely different range of motion than fingers, making circular scrolling comfortable
3. [conjecture:] the circular scrolling was influenced by ipod click wheels, which are held in the same way as a deck, but differently to a laptop

please don’t tell me you’re advocating for two trackpads on laptops, and a swirly motion for scrolling

The most common behavior is now what Steam Deck does and it defaults to neither in Desktop Mode.

Yes, Windows has the biggest market share among Windows users.

windows has the biggest market share on pcs and laptops.^[1] the comment wasn’t “kde should follow defaults from other linux distros”, it was "kde should follow the most common behaviour. windows market share outnumbers macos + linux + chromeos + bsd + opensolaris etc.; and mac also does this by default to my knowledge

The biggest driver to get Plasma in the hands of users is currently Steam Deck and that throws both conventions out of the window and defaults to actual presses to click and circular movement to scroll down in Desktop Mode.

not really. i love my steam deck, but it is a niche product. valve are understandably being cagey about how many units have been sold, but steam deck <<< switch <<< computers. most plasma adopters will be coming from windows.

this is the most common behaviour. windows has natural scrolling and tap to click / two finger tap to right click, and that’s the biggest market share

you’re not touching it when you use a scroll wheel either, and yet you drag the scroll wheel downwards

the argument for non-inverted scrolling isn’t “you’re not touching the content so it should run away from you”, it’s “you’re dragging the viewport”. you’re not touching the viewport either

personally i find the content (an actual visible thing) being draggable more intuitive than the viewport (an abstract window)

ayy nice! it’s really only panel icons that i care about

i much prefer natural scrolling; but at the moment it just inverts the scrolling direction, meaning that you have to scroll down on the icon to raise the volume or brightness. i feel that’s a thing that needs to be changed for it to be default

natural scrolling is intuitive because it’s dragging the content as though it were a physical thing - but the volume is currently dragged down to go up

oh i know, i’m very pro jxl. but i was more saying why i don’t like webp even if it is open-licence

i think that’s irrelevant. sure, webp might be open licence, but so is chromium to some extent and that’s doing severe damage to internet health

that said, apart from “it’s an open format”, i can’t actually find any definitive answer on the webp licence

i don’t hate webp. i think png is better, but i think webp is fine

but i really don’t want google to have more control over how i browse the internet.^[1] let’s maybe use an image format that isn’t owned by them, perhaps