Thanks, AI.

Hmm as in good?

Or hmm as in you are apprehensive?

That’s not the point.

The point is that sometimes the sandboxing can break certain features in certain software. And if the software is only available as a snap or even flatpak, but not the original deb or rpm, then you’re stuck with a broken software.

This was the case, for example, for my browsers and some of their extensions that need to communicate with external tools like media downloaders or even password vault access, like keepass.

Absolutely. I can get around some Snaps right now with Kubuntu 24.04 but I don’t know how long I’ll be able to with the next versions.

I regret not installing Debian, which was my 2nd choice. I’ve just been a loyal *Ubuntu user for 20 years so I thought I’d give it one last chance and because I’ve gotten pretty comfortable with it.

Next time I’ll install Debian testing as a rolling distro. I think it’s stable enough and even more stable than most Arch flavors or even OpenSuse Tumbleweed. With a solid snapshot strategy it should be safe enough.

KDE won’t provide them exclusively as Snaps. But *Ubuntu might. It seems to be the aim with Kubuntu from what I understand. (Correct me if I’m mistaken.)

That’s totally different.

Do you even know what’s the difference between a .deb/.rpm and a snap?

That’s if the maintainer of that software provides the repo. Like Firefox. But that’s not always the case.

And I don’t see why I should be the one that has to take the extra steps to add these to my sources when having the choice should be the default OOTB.

That might be a good solution for you, yes.

I don’t have anything against Snap itself. It’s the exclusivity to snaps and nothing else that bothers me. Like, you don’t have a choice but to use snap for some packages.

While it may be a good solution for your scenario, but it’s not for mine. I should be able to decide if I want a software as a snap or not. And if someone wants to use snaps exclusively, there should be some configuration to set to do this. It shouldn’t be imposed on the end users.

Flatpak just shits the bed.

How come?

Sure. But when packages become exclusively available as Snaps, that’s just asking for users to dump the distro for something else.

Why would we need to turn KDE packages into Snaps??? That’ll slow down the whole startup process because Snaps are stored compressed and will need to be decompressed before launch. And why have your whole DE in a sandbox??? That doesn’t make any sense to me. Unless they’re talking about only the applications. But even then that’s too much.

Holy fuck. I hope KDE snaps aren’t going to be mandatory. I just reinstalled Kubuntu to erase Windows from my PC and I’ve had quite a hard time working around snaps.

I regret not installing Debian as I said I would but changed my mind last minute thinking it wouldn’t be so bad…

Hey there. I just tried Celeste and it’s not working for me. I get some kind of thread panic or some error like that.

It’s a shame. That app looks promising. It needs more contributors.

Isn’t NextCloud on-prem self-hosting?

Yeah I guess that will have to do. I’ll go read the docs and see how to set it up.

Yeah that’s probably what I’m going to have to end up using.

Why use a container though? Why not install it directly?

Sorry. I think I may have not expressed what I meant properly.

I want all the files to be physically present on my local drive and then to sync whenever there’s a change. I want them to be accessible even if offline.

I don’t think that’s what Kio-gdrive does. Unless I’m mistaken.

No that’s not what Kio-gdrive does at all.

It allows you to access your files as a network drive. It downloads the file you open into a cache when you open it and sends it back when you edit it.

I want a solution where the files are physically on my local drive and are synched when there are changes.

Thanks! I’ll check it out.

Yeah that’s what I was referring to in my post. The KDE KIO thing. It’s not exactly what I’m looking for.

I want the files to be accessible locally and to sync with the cloud when there are changes both ways.

A tool to sync GDrive to my system. That’s pretty much what Google’s software did in Windows.