You’re probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia.

When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer.

I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don’t care about us.

EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That’s not what I’m getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely.

GNOME feels to me like it’s designed for a tablet, not a keyboard and mouse. That’s part of why I don’t like it.

I’ve said numerous times that this has worked multiple times in the last 20 years I’ve dabbled with Linux. I’m done here.

I’ve been using Linux since 2004. Back then, it didn’t even have nearly the marketshare it does today, and Android didn’t exist, but boycotts and protests have worked anyway. Many times. Even nvidia themselves changed their tune with their motherboard chipset drivers.

By your logic, all these hardware manufacturers should just give up and refuse to support Linux at all. It sounds like that’s what you are advocating for.

I’ve used Linux long enough to know that refusing to be complacent can lead to positive change. I’ve seen it firsthand.

We didn’t always have such good hardware support on Linux. People refused to accept crappy binary blobs and ndiswrapper for other things, and won. Having the attitude that you don’t want to listen to Linus because you love nvidia so much doesn’t help.

The problem is that those drivers are awful if you plan to keep your computer for more than a year or two. Most Linux-first OEMs are shipping Nvidia, not just System76. I’ve had two computers I got secondhand with Nvidia GPUs, and that damn GPU was the bane of my existence, and from what I’m seeing, that situation hasn’t changed for the better at all.

Ideally, I would love to see things change, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users and OEMs are still using Nvidia GPUs, so Nvidia has no incentive to change.

Why are you so worried about people wanting to see this situation change for the better?

Again, you’re not the target of my comments. I’m talking about people who continue to buy nvidia after switching to Linux, and then bitching that it doesn’t work with Wayland.

The reason I’m speaking up is that I am sick and tired of people buying nvidia and then bitching that it doesn’t work. Not people who already had nvidia hardware or received it secondhand. People who keep buying nvidia laptops and cards and bitching that it doesn’t work all the time, especially with the transition to Wayland.

I stated the reason that this is the case, confirmed by the leader of the kernel, and you’re turning it into “I don’t care what Linus thinks.” It’s not elitism. The fact is that nvidia doesn’t care about Linux as much as Intel and AMD do. That’s just facts. And there’s no hope of this ever changing unless Linux users start boycotting nvidia.

Do you have a vested interest in Nvidia or something?

Hence why I said to stop buying nvidia.

System76 and other Linux-first hardware OEMs still sell nvidia’s garbage for some reason.

Why would you want to give your money to the one option that Linus says is the single worst company they’ve ever dealt with?

Linux users need to stop buying nvidia.

Same. I don’t understand why it is the most popular desktop on Linux. It’s like the Windows 8 of Linux GUIs.

Learning the basics of vim makes setting up a Linux system a lot easier. That’s all I’m saying. You don’t need to learn regexes or anything like that.

Vim has things like copy and paste, including being able to highlight text, search and replace, and I find its commands a lot less clunky than Nano’s. I am not a software developer or a sysadmin, just someone who uses Linux for fun. All of this stuff works without having X or Wayland running too.

Nano is overrated. I tell everyone who needs to edit from the terminal to use vimtutor. You’ll never go back to Nano.

Anything 5-10 years old or older. Chances are, it won’t work unless it’s a static binary. Linux has long had a policy of “F backwards compatibility” in the userspace, so you need to dig up the 5-10 year old libraries it needs to run. And for anything 32-bit, you also need to install the 32-bit versions of all your system libraries.

Acting like “old app won’t run” is exclusive to macOS is misleading.