maybe if any of those open source github alternatives were actually any decent, most of the “github alternatives” I find don’t even have a functioning search…

EDIT: I also find that github’s discoverability (like this https://github.com/topics/activitypub?l=rust&o=desc&s=updated) is actually great I find so many cool projects using it

Can a webpage glow any harder?

There are good reasons not to federate, Legality is kinda murkey when it comes to stuff like this. Federation could (not saying it would) be used as a weapon against them. I mean, there are all sorts of instances on the federated networks, many of which do not comply with US law. Not just the real shitty stuff, But even instances that just don’t care about DMCA for instance. It could simply be that Federation is just way too much of a hassle, which I really couldn’t blame them. I did try to host my own federated service instance and it was just kinda too much.

Working with android can be a bit of a pain for sure. I’m only talking about android here since that’s all I’ve tested, so don’t apply what I am saying to chromium, Android and Chromium are two seperate projects, by two separate teams. but in the end it’s important to realize that google has actually needs for these devices. As long as you work within the bounds of needs it’s actually not that hard to actually work with. Android has a LOT of stuff for sure.

Android actually allows you to configure most things (granted the documentation is absolutely horrid, Grep my beloved). It is true that most android phones are running proprietary stuff, but this isn’t really any fault of google. Google has gone to fairly great lengths to make AOSP a fairly open ecosystem. Nearly every rom is heavily customized as per customers requirements. AOSP can actually run on most hardware fairly easily. Hell it even works just fine on the vanilla kernel (Waydroid for instance). The Issue is that it’s nearly impossible to market consumer devices with only FOSS/AOSP stuff, the margins on phones are actually terrible. The biggest issue is finding a phone that can accommodate the more open stuff, not the issue with google pushing crap. In the end Google is making devices for people who will fight tooth and nail to grab the gun to shoot themselves in the foot. A lot of their motivations are based on that. But doing your own AOSP is still easy enough. Just need hardware for it.

Chromium and AOSP are not good examples for what you’re saying. Both Chromium and Android have thriving ecosystems of forks and alternatives based on them. Built on the work that Google is doing with them. So I really don’t think those are good examples of applications that aren’t healthy because you can just use a fork.

Yes, Google controls upstream, but there’s no reason why you can’t use downstream.As you said, it puts maintenance burden on the forks, but people are willing to do that. That’s the thing.

EDIT: This is my off account, So, unfortunately, you’ll have to take my word for it, but I did used to be part of an Android ROM team in the past and still do Android work private sector today.

I find that fair, but at the same time, proton has a rocksolid history at this point. OFC they will likely add their features to it, and maybe remove some. But im the end its still open source and under gpl licence, so its not like proton cam change that unless they remove all other commits.

awful name

I think you mean a great name

Yes. I have had many bugs with it, I recently changed to organic maps and have no complaints

Literally never heard of it let alone know anyone who cares…

considering android allows you to actively change the default assistant it won’t be a problem, we already have plenty of apps that use overlays that are foss so that’s not an issue either, so I really have no idea what you think would be locked down here.

dicio is just kind of a clunky app

this is a really dumb take lmao

Honestly, IMO they all suck. I’ve tried most around up until about 4 or 5 months ago when I gave up, and each one has some really annoying issues. that I never managed to work around

I find droidify is close, it has an issue with getting caught on some bits, but the devs are aware of the issue, Neostore isnt bad, but It seems to crash every so often?

I never said they worked perfect. The fact that they work at all is a goddamn miracle. Have you ever read some of the specs for all the things they have to support? It’s absolutely absurd.

Them working good is relative to literally anything else. I could go on for list for days about issues on almost anything. Linux, Windows, OSX, Gnome, KDE. It doesn’t matter whether something has problems or not. What matters if they’re the best that you can get.

Literally, no other browser is remotely close to Firefox and Chrome in terms of how well they actually work. Not a single one. Full stop. End of story. Forks excluded for obvious reasons.

you seem to be thinking about live2d

There is plenty of various software, but you probably want to look at inochi2d, Im not sure what they support for tracking however. iirc it was multiple different types of tech

The reason why firefox and chrome work so well, is that they literally have been in development for over a decade. In Firefox’s case, it’s actually over two decades now.

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, why not support some currently existing alternative browsers that look promising? You have servo, you have webkit, and you even have a ladybird now. That’s three potential browsers.

All three are under somewhat active development. Servo, in my opinion, looking the most promising, that shares a lot of dependencies with Firefox still, which means maintenance cost is not super high. It’s easy to hack on, and of course it’s rust. who doesnt love rust

I disagree that American-right leaning people are anti foss. rather FOSS is great because it has zero political inclinations. Rather, as some who interacts with all sorts of people across the political spectrum, in fact most of my friends who are American-Right leaning or republicans, are the ones pushing hard for foss software, my American-left leaning friends are more generally neutral.

Rather, I think that in general, the more politically inclined someone is, regardless of political stance, the easier it is to convince them to be pro foss.

Usually people put links to sites they don’t want to support in archive, so that the sites are deprived of traffic, leading to a reduction (albiet small) in ad revenue and possible paywall popups

any evidence at all to even remotely suggest this will lead to an anti foss sentiment? or is this just yet more shoving political bait into foss?