Yes. Pinta and Paint.net are often the best solution for lots of tasks. They will need help too.
GIMP has come from nothing just on donations. As I can get results as good as PS very quickly, that is quite a feat. And soon v3 will be out with more goodies.
Gimp isn’t perfect. But neither is Photoshop. In fact Lightroom users grizzle that Photoshop is so much harder to use than Lightroom. It’s a different animal.
I use Pinta or Paint.Net when I want a quick edit. But Gimp has the tools for serious editing. More tools, more hard to use.
Some Gimp things, yes! should be improved. And other things are being improved as we speak. And some things can be done on a photo much easier in Inkscape.
I hope the whiners donated to Gimp development? No? Then just please step back, and think for a bit. If thinking is too hard, then just take a deep breath.
GUIs, even the Registry Editor, are familiar territory for a lot of users. Give them a blank screen cli, and there is no hint of what to do next. There are good reasons why the vast majority clearly prefer GUIs.
Go down that path and it’s all binary. But users deal with metaphors. And containers are very useful.
I blame the Linux gatekeepers, keeping people on Windows. By pushing out misinformation to Linux newbies who ask a question online, and scaring them away.
Directory means a listing. You are referring to the list of names of some items.
I’m usually working with folders that actually contain files and other folders. It’s often closed, so the content is not shown. A folder is a container.
Wikipedia clarifies this difference.
A telephone directory does not contain telephones.
Linux is confusing for non IT people looking for program settings. It might be in share, local or config or hidden somewhere. On W 10 I just look under ProgramData. Maybe W11 is different. But Linux application devs need to agree on a single place. As users sometimes need to access it for plugins and resources.
It’s one small step for man.
One giant leap for a horse?
Can horses type yet?
The shares are on a WD-MyCloud 4Tb off the shelf NAS. With setup page via a browser.
I’ve never found a GUI way to permanently mount a share. I hope someone develops one.
RcloneBrowser doesn’t achieve any more than Dolphin and is not designed for normal users.
I’ll be trying smb4k again. But it has not been reliable in past attempts.
Backup needs to be something straight forward for non IT users. There are real benefits to all, if more people use Linux and increase the market share. More drivers and applications for example. I find it strange that this is missing from Plasma.
Thanks I founf CIFS/smb on 35. It connected. Now trying to find out how to use the remote.
already have a working solution
The solution, as I posted at the start, is to do it with a GUI. So a script could never have helped.
Solving this and sharing it, will also help everyone who uses a GUI. Not just me.
Also, you might also be forgetting that I would have a whole lot more to learn as a non IT user. So a script would be a massive investment. And I will have forgotten it all again if I ever need to do another one in the future. I think that is unlikely. So a lot of effort for a one-off.
Also I’d need to have the script in the App launcher. Even if that is possible, it’s yet more to legacy crap to learn.
Learning something useful is never a waste of time
Sure. I will happily spend my time learning useful stuff. I don’t want to waste time using bad UX because something is broken in a strange domain. I want to discover and share a good solution.
If you are not in to usability that’s OK. But this is a usability issue. A different world from yours. Software is there to help people. Never change the user to help the software.
Oh thats what that was. It looked like an error message. So I tried it. Horrible UX, and it did not have samba. I tried a few of the alternatives and it didn’t manage to connect.
It doesn’t have to be zero effort. But it’s good to have commands available for non IT specialists too. Where they don’t have to learn IT or memorise complex commands or use an unfamiliar type of UI. Usability.
My kids need to learn about backups. Backups should be easy. They are easy on Windows or Android. It could be easy on Plasma too.
Script them? That sound like a lot of IT skills are needed for that. I’ve never seen or used a script. Nor have my kids. Telling non IT users to do that is going to scare people back to Windows.
I’m not ‘scared of the cli’. I’m scared of wasting my time. I’m scared other people being told to use inappropriate tools and end up dropping Linux thinking it’s a nerds OS. I’m prepared to put effort in, to try out lots of methods to find appropriate solutions. And share the results.
The terminal is obscure in itself. I’m not sure how to start it or what commands to use.
I just meant that, as a Plasma user, there is a missing function. And backing up is quite important too.
For what I use Linux for, Inkscape, Blender, web browser etc. do you think they send text commands from the GUI to another UI, the CLI? Sounds like an inefficient, legacy irrelevance to the user.
Remember this a usability issue, so for non IT users, incoherent text strings or commands are indeed magic spells. Any inappropriate UI is bad usability. They have put a lot of effort into usability on Plasma. So it’s quite a shame that they got this so wrong.
Yes I tried the RcloneBrowser. But there is no way to create a new Sync in the GUI. Only manage already configured ones. Unless it’s well hidden.
Thanks. Yes Gnome is better for apps accessing the LAN. And Deja Dup does connect as I’d expect. But it creates special files that can’t be accessed on the LAN itself. Only via restore, that cant be used by other PCs or if you change your distro. So yes there is almost a way with Plasma. But if that is totally useless, it’s still a fail.
There is always some process mounting the shares, be it graphical or not, even on windows
OK. Thanks. I thought the fstab entry looked a lot less involved, process wise.
Ah, yes, then you can try freefilesync, it supports a bunch of clouds and ftp, smb, etc There is also rclone
Freefile sync Files mode, can’t navigate to the LAN and Cloud mode only has SFTP, FTP and Google Drive. I tried anyway and it did not like it. Maybe there is a trick.
Rclone command line tool has a web GUI mode. I’ll try that next. Edit: No go. It seems the command line is needed to launch the rclone Web interface.
Some were complaining GIMPs text and shapes were hard to use. I put text on images in Inkscape. Inkscape is ideal for that, having all the tools to use on top of a pasted image.