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  • Who’s gatekeeping? Why would a new user be pushed to Arch? There are many options where a user can probably get by without having to read a wiki, and certainly not the Arch wiki. It’s no harder than installing Windows to install those distros for a basic install - and no harder than an advanced Windows install for an advanced install. What problem are you trying to solve?

    My point is - there’s always this underlying “well it’s not easy enough for every last untrained child to pick up an iso and install it, so it’s failed!”

    My point is:

    1. Netiher is Windows
    2. Even Windows has a learning curve, but it’s so ingrained that folks don’t realize they’ve already traversed it and
    3. NOTHING appeals to or is suitable for every last person, so why does desktop Linux (edit: Or at least Arch for sure as in OP) need to be?

  • And this, folks, is why there will be no “year of the Linux desktop”. The technical difficulties, and the surrounding gatekeeping.

    Joke’s on you, we don’t need there to be one. Mine was 2007. Yours was whenever it was. I welcome new users, but my happiness doesn’t depend on Linux appealing to everyone, and neither does the survival of Linux as an option.

    The types who appreciate what differentiates the Linux experience from Windows or MacOS (in terms of the typical benefits we’d evangelize) will find their way here. It’s naturally getting easier over time, and the contrast (especially against the Windows experience) is only increasing in its attractiveness.

    You need a willingness to learn, and if you’ve never installed an OS ever before that will be true even for Windows. Why are we trying to lower the bar further than that? Not everyone has to start with Arch, or should.




  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mltolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldDamn linux users!
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    8 months ago

    If you talk shit instead of genuinely having trouble with something, any hobby group will not take it lightly.

    Such a simple concept. It’s surprising the number of people who don’t recognize this, then invariably go on to talk about how “toxic” the community was to them for “just asking a question.”