I never noticed any latency when I’m not using bluetooth. And no, the devices do not speak to each other. For PA/pipewire, this is just an audio sink as any other.
There is latency when using bluetooth but this is pretty standard. It just doesn’t increase (or not noticeably) when streamed to another computer.
Bah. I’ve been using Linux for 25 years, started with a derivative of Slackware, then used Slackware for about a decade, and switched to Debian. I used 5.25" floppies and manually set IRQs so I’m quite comfortable with Debian and tinkering in general.
For friends and family I prefer LMDE. Snap packages can go to hell.
Audio over the network is a feature of pulseaudio/pipewire from a module aptly named “module-simple-protocol”, and as simple as it is to make it work on Linux (when it works), it’s unfortunately not as easy on other platforms. Technically speaking, it’s possible to do that on Android with an app called “Simple Protocol Player” but it’s apparently very glitchy and you’re going to need some patience for the setup. It’s from someone that wanted to stream audio from an HTPC with Ubuntu to an Android phone, but the author states that it’s pretty buggy. Here’s the link to their blog: https://kaytat.com/blog/?page_id=301
So the short answer is unfortunately “no”, unless you want to practice your patience on a project.
Hehe, I knew that if I wanted stability I had to stay on Slackware! That’s the price we have to pay to use a bleeding edge distro like Debian where everything is fast paced. 😏
When it works (!), it’s one of the reasons I brag to my tech friends about Linux, and why I switched to Linux many many years ago. In fact, it was when Esound was a thing. But once in a while it stops working after an upgrade or a dist-upgrade, and I have to spend time trying to fix it.
I like to joke around with tech minded friends that Windows keeps breaking with every updates, but then I have to spend an hour finding out why my sinks disappeared after an upgrade, and I’m forced to realize that… sigh… these things happen with Linux too.
Mainly because of bluetooth headphones with multiple computers. That way they are paired to only one computer and I can use them with other computers at the same time. Just right click on paprefs system tray icon, change the sink and the audio is sent somewhere else. I know it’s now possible to have bluetooth headphones that have multiple connections but it wasn’t the case a few years ago and I still find it much more useful this way.
But it’s also useful when I have my laptop near my main computer and want to use its much better speakers instead of the crappy ones on the laptop. Right click, select another sink, and that’s it.
It’s just nice to have the option to send the audio from one computer to another. It’s a shame that it’s apparently a niche thing.
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Setting up an ad blocker for a whole device often requires root. I gave up with my new phone and just have ublock origin on Firefox but that’s the point. I can’t easily install something that will modify the DNS because I have no admin access on my phone.
That’s why I also do give up on certain apps. For example I don’t like the ads in Boost so I stopped using it. Sometimes I pay for the version of an app without ads. This doesn’t happen on Linux.
Also being heavily pushed towards apps for websites like YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook… Lemmy, Mastodon… They are all “best experienced” in apps, and most of them will probably try to push you ads or make you pay.
Again, I’m relatively tech savvy so I can find other ways, but it’s still annoying and disappointing to have to constantly find ways around the system. It doesn’t happen in Linux.
Android is the enshittification of Linux.
Free software. Try to use apt on Android, or run software that you can use on a desktop. And no ads in every app.
Root access, that is, being admim of your own device.
Being able to access the file system and support for different types. For example Android doesn’t support NTFS and needs FAT. Plugging a simple USB drive has mixed results.
This is from the top of my head. I use both but I really don’t like how Android is locked down and so limited, even for power users. I really wish I could have a real “pocket computer” instead of this thing that feeds me ads.
Many many years ago, it’s one of the things that made me switch to Linux. Moving and renaming files while using them was kind of a game changer.
For the nostalgic, there is Qmmp that looks and behave like XMMS/Winamp and is still maintained.
It seems hit and miss for VLC. I’ve used it for many years in Linux and can’t pinpoint the moment when it became bad for me, but it now has difficulty to read a significant portion of my video files.
It lags when playing videos, or there is sound but no image, or it flickers. It just became unreliable for me. And if we google a bit, there seems to also be lots of people in that situation.
I tried a few things, changing settings and what not, but it never worked correctly again. Even on a fresh install. So I gave up and just use mpv now.
Edit: I just remembered. At one point it was not closing properly. Like, if you didn’t stop the video playing before closing VLC’s window, it crashed and stayed in the background. It opened new instances but every time it was closed before stopping a video, it would just crash and stay in the background. Eventually I’d have 4, 5 or 6 icons of VLC in my notification tray and would have to kill all of them. It was annoying.
Modern web IRC clients like The Lounge or Convos can now display images, play mp3 and mp4 formats, and they have upload options. It can still be excellent for real time support, but I’m not so sure about documentation though.
I get better performance from the release version than from ESR. The ESR version in Debian has always been slower than the release version for me. Especially on YouTube.
EDIT: For those that doubt: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/z6655k/how_to_make_firefox_esr_work_with_youtube/
But then you use Debian and what’s preinstalled is Firefox ESR, so you have to install Firefox anyway.
This makes me ponder on how old some of those “issues” are. I remember using ESD over OSS and being very happy to finally be able to hear sounds from multiple programs all together instead of having a single program monopolizing the audio output.
History doesn’t repeat itself but it rhymes.
That being said, even with all its issues, ever since ESD and now pulseaudio, this has been one of the reasons why I prefer to use Linux over anything else. Mostly for RTP streaming nowadays.
In fact, for a while, pipewire didn’t support RTP streams and I kept using pulseaudio just for this reason.
AFAIK Kodi can use pulseaudio and probably pipewire. I use Kodi too on those computers and I just leave it to use the default PA device that I’ve set. I switch the default devices with pasystray.
What’s usually breaking for me is paprefs. Every so often after an upgrade, the options are greyed out and I can’t share or access my devices over the network.
I never tried to setup simultaneous output before because I just switch from device one to another, but I just enabled it in paprefs and it’s working too.