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  • Thank you for the detailed response, very informative. You make a really good point about centralized logging, I can see how that can be very helpful when you run A LOT of different server process on one machine. I get centralized logging as a bonus of running everything in Docker, but I can see how it is nice to have logging as part of the init system if you want to run a lot of services natively.





  • renzev@lemmy.worldOPtolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldAverage systemd debate
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    1 month ago

    I’ve gotten into quite a lot of systemd-related flame wars so far, and what strikes me is that I haven’t heard a single reason why systemd is good and should be used in favor of openrc/sysvinit/whatever. The only arguments I hear in favor of systemd, even from the its diehard defenders, are justifications why it’s not that bad. Not once have I heard someone advocate for systemd with reasoning that goes likes “Systemd is superior to legacy init systems because you can do X much easier” or “systemd is more secure because it’s resistant against Y attack vector”. It’s always “Linus says it’s allright” or “binary logfiles aren’t a problem, you can just get them from journald instead of reading the file”, or “everyone already uses it”.

    When it comes to online discourse, systemd doesn’t have advocates, it has apologists.





  • He really insists on debian-based, I don’t really know why. And, while Void IS really solid, it isn’t exactly known for the most expansive package collection. Xournal, for example, is not available through XBPS (there is a xournal package, but it just installs xournal++), which is one of the programs he likes a lot. I told him it’s on nix, but he doesn’t want to use nix.

    But I agree, Void is amazing, I use it on my laptop. One little-known cool feature of Void is that its official docker images come in busybox/musl libc, busybox/glibc, and coreutils/glibc variants, it gives you a nice scale from most minimalist to most compatible.


  • renzev@lemmy.worldtolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldapt install firefox
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    2 months ago

    I like your comment a lot because you can substitute a lot of different things for “snap” and it still ends up sounding like a very reasonable opinion

    I feel like I would be more okay with leaded gasoline if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with anarcho-capitalism if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with PFAS-coated cookware if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with single-use plastic bags if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with cryptocurrencies if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with generative AI if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

    I feel like I would be more okay with eating highly processed meat if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.



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    It’s not a miniscule gripe tho. Snap is still broken for many users, and relying on it for something as critical as a web browser is asking for trouble. Experimental technologies like snap should be opt-in for users who are willing to deal with the issues they create. Do they really expect a novice to see firefox’s filepicker not behaving correctly, and think “Aha, an XDG desktop portal issue! Let me drop everything I’m doing and go troubleshoot that” ? Ubuntu is meant to be linux for normies, they don’t have the time or the knowledge to deal with snap.



  • One of my friends spent like a month distrohopping just to find a debian-based distro that fits these two criteria:

    • First-class support for KDE

    • Isn’t broken all the time

    Ubuntu fails both. KDE Neon excels on the first one, but fails harder than ubuntu on the second one. Kubuntu as well. Debian has horridly outdated packages, and he refuses to use nix/flatpak. Tuxedo OS is obscure and broken. Mint is great, but installing KDE takes some effort.

    He finally settled on Ubuntu Server with the native KDE package. Still has to do some weird incantations to banish snap tho.

    How did things get this bad?




  • I agree. I also think part of the blame can be placed on the system administrators who failed to make a recovery plan for circumstances like these – it’s not good to blindly place your trust in software that can be remotely updated.

    In Linux, this type of scenario could be prevented by configuring servers to make copy-on-write snapshots before every software upgrade (e.g. with BTRFS or LVM), and automatically switching back to the last good snapshot if a kernel panic or other error is detected. Do you know if something similar can be achieved under Windows?