In all fairness, not needing to install an OS is easier.

That’s pretty much what GNU is about, just technologically superior.

Couple things there are many computer users that don’t play games like for example me.

And in which credible statistic are those?

Enterprise Linux is not the same as a container

Of course not but you didn’t specifically say desktop-only Ubuntu/… installs and Ubuntu is still very popular in containers that never see any desktop. Ubuntu also ships Plasma, flagship DE or not.

I’m not sure there are more Steam OS installs than RHEL/SUSE/Ubuntu installs.

Of course not, if you phrase it like that. According to your phrasing non-desktop container setups also count but they don’t.

Distributions like Ubuntu also ship Plasma. The preconfigured disk image is called Kubuntu but that’s still Ubuntu and counts as that in Steam’s surveys which I consider the most reliable source of what actual GUI Linux users actually use.

I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

In theory the one place where you can enter your Nextcloud or whatever credentials and syncing for calendar, mails, file storage ect. happens automatically everywhere after confirming which services should connect.

It’s not my personal must have feature but when it works, it’s alright.

yea, gnome is “more popular”. doesn’t mean it’s “better”, just that it’s the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

But not SteamOS which has the numbers on its side. Not that Gnome is unpopular but Steam Deck single-handedly pulled in millions of users who at least occasionally switch from game mode to desktop mode (=Plasma) to install emulators and stuff.

Lineage/Android

Only the kernel is called Linux. The userspace is completely different from GNU/Linux but the actual software named Linux is being used. Alpine Linux isn’t GNU/Linux either.

I think as a GNU project, Gnome is an exception.

Gnome isn’t a GNU project any longer. They removed references to GNU from their website when Stallman was brought back as GNU leader after speaking in favor of pedophilia.

In typical Gnome fashion they didn’t merely renounce GNU and Stallman, they lied and claimed that Gnome has never ever been a GNU project.

It isn’t “non standard.” It is literally s part of gnome.

It’s a stand-alone tool by the Gnome developers, it’s not an integral part of Gnome.

The default UX of Gnome still make it hard for people migrating from Win10. No amount of nitpicking about irrelevant details change that fact.

Haters gonna hate I guess

I didn’t expect any other response by a Gnome fan. Keep ignoring comments like https://lemmy.world/comment/22252682 where I explained that I picked Gnome for an elderly man. I’m really such a hater that I pick Gnome for a certain use case.

I’m pretty sure you can live without the minimize button.

I’m volunteering in a repair café where older people bring their Windows 10 computers and seek help migrating to Linux because their PC told them that Win11 isn’t compatible.

I make recommendations based on each person, trying to realize what they wish for first if they have an idea what they want. A few months ago there was an >70y/o man. Let’s be realistic here, at this age it might well be the last PC he ever owns. So I set him up with Alma Linux (extra long support cycle) and made its Gnome desktop as Windows-like as possible. He’s not getting pressured into unfamiliar UX metaphors and no way I’m pushing software from EPEL or anything that onto him. I enabled Flathub and temporarily installed aforementioned tools to make the necessary tweaks, then uninstalled these tools again, and installed a few of Gnome’s games, Celluloid, and Chrome off Flathub.

For the rest of the day he ate cookies and drank coffee and seemed pretty happy with that setup. We invited him to come back, should he have any further questions. Haven’t seen him again.

For the max/min buttons you can just turn them on in gnome tweaks

Ah yes, using a different non-standard tool makes so much of a difference.

Gnome has one great purpose and that is for tablets.

Doesn’t work well on tablets, though.

why in the fuck is it pronounced guhnome

It’s not. There is no vowel between G and N. Watch an episode or two of Star Trek and listen to some Klingon or Vulkan names to learn how such a combination of letters is pronounced without adding a vowel.

yet seem incapable of understanding that people could have preferences different from their own.

Perfect description of Gnome developers.

Kde is so ugly and buggy, requiring tons of setup n knowhow to fix.

Surely you confuse Plasma and Gnome. To get a sane setup on Gnome, you need to install Refine to enable the minimize button and then install Gnome Extension Manager and enable Dash to Panel or Dash to Dock.

That’s an insane amount of setup work for someone who doesn’t know about those things.

Your first mistake was attempting to unarchive to / in the first place. Like WTF. Why would this EVER be a sane idea?

IMO there is a difference in productivity tools and entertainment. With entertainment products they’re usually consumed and then replaced. Productivity tools you’re stuck with and vendor lock in is a real problem.

Then they switch to Qt and realize that VLC and Haruna (a mpv frontend) already cover the bases.

GNU Hurd Is Almost There!!!

DeX is more often used on Samsung tablets with attached keyboard. I didn’t check but I assume it’s being merged with Android’s upstream desktop mode.