man, arcane looks amazing, I ended up deciding off it though as their pull requests look like they use copilot for a lot of code for new features. Not that I personally have an issue with this but, I’ve seen enough issues where copilot or various AI agents add security vulnerabilities by mistake and they aren’t caught, so I would rather stray away from those types of projects at least until that issue becomes less common/frequent.
For something as detrimental as a management console to a program that runs as root on most systems, and would provide access to potentially high secure locations, I would not want such a program having security vulnerabilities.
fully agree, mine isnt accessible to the outside world either but, you never know if something gets missed or somehow a path gets made. would rather not open up that risk
while docker does have a non-root installer, the default installer for docker is docker as root, containers as non-root, but since in order to manage docker as a whole it would need access to the socket, if docker has root the container by extension has root.
Even so, if docker was installed in a root-less environment then a compromised manager container would still compromise everything on that docker system, as a core requirement for these types of containers are access to the docker socket which still isn’t great but is still better than full root access.
To answer the question: No it doesn’t require it to function, but the default configuration is root, and even in rootless environment a compromise of the management container that is meant to control other containers will result in full compromise of the docker environment.
ugh well that sucks butt. i’ll be trying new alternatives tonight i guess lol
any recommendations?
update for posterity: i ditched arcane for just managing compose files manually and lazydocker for logs and restarting containers. it’s plenty good for my needs at the moment. tried komodo and couldn’t get it working and didn’t quite like any others i looked into so i dunno what to recommend for a webgui docker manager.
man, arcane looks amazing, I ended up deciding off it though as their pull requests look like they use copilot for a lot of code for new features. Not that I personally have an issue with this but, I’ve seen enough issues where copilot or various AI agents add security vulnerabilities by mistake and they aren’t caught, so I would rather stray away from those types of projects at least until that issue becomes less common/frequent.
For something as detrimental as a management console to a program that runs as root on most systems, and would provide access to potentially high secure locations, I would not want such a program having security vulnerabilities.
I wouldn’t be exposing any management consoles to the internet either way, too much risk with something that has docker socket access.
fully agree, mine isnt accessible to the outside world either but, you never know if something gets missed or somehow a path gets made. would rather not open up that risk
Does it have to run as root? It’s common to run Docker in rootless mode in production environments.
while docker does have a non-root installer, the default installer for docker is docker as root, containers as non-root, but since in order to manage docker as a whole it would need access to the socket, if docker has root the container by extension has root.
Even so, if docker was installed in a root-less environment then a compromised manager container would still compromise everything on that docker system, as a core requirement for these types of containers are access to the docker socket which still isn’t great but is still better than full root access.
To answer the question: No it doesn’t require it to function, but the default configuration is root, and even in rootless environment a compromise of the management container that is meant to control other containers will result in full compromise of the docker environment.
ugh well that sucks butt. i’ll be trying new alternatives tonight i guess lol
any recommendations?
update for posterity: i ditched arcane for just managing compose files manually and lazydocker for logs and restarting containers. it’s plenty good for my needs at the moment. tried komodo and couldn’t get it working and didn’t quite like any others i looked into so i dunno what to recommend for a webgui docker manager.
I switched from Portainer to Dockge to Komodo. Been very happy with komodo so far
Dockge?
Sadly no recommendations, I still use portainer myself