Depends on what kind of website we are talking about.
If it’s a website whose purpose to display an article or images or similar, I agree with you.
If its main purpose is something that requires interaction by the user (i.e. it’s a “web app”), then it’s not a reasonable expectation that it should work without JS, and then I agree with the OP.
Even “web apps” don’t necessarily need javascript. Is a forum a web app? It has plenty of user interaction and forums without javascript have existed since before HTML. Even stuff like Mastodon doesn’t necessarily need javascript, it can work as static pages.
There’s a reason nobody uses forums anymore and it’s because static content feels and is extremely dated
Nah, it’s more because they want everything in the same place. Reddit and Discord became the “internet forum” - 1 account, 1 site/app, every community and discussion you need. Same for Roblox
The other reason is the dopamine hit of endless doomscrolling. If you think about it, most online interaction is: upvoting/liking, commenting, sharing; which I would argue is just a bare minimum of interactivity.
Of the two, only discord actually really needs javascript to work as intended on a browser. Reddit, though? It’s still a static web forum, you don’t lose much browsing old.reddit instead of www.reddit.
Besides, I never argued those two are not “rich web applications”, my point was that “static web content looks dated” wasn’t the main driver for people to move into centralized platforms.
If its main purpose is something that requires interaction by the user (i.e. it’s a “web app”), then it’s not a reasonable expectation that it should work without JS, and then I agree with the OP.
Web apps predate JavaScript by many years. The kids writing websites these days just don’t know how.
Got to disagree there. Websites should work without js. Sure it shouldn’t have fancy animations or whatever but I should be able to read it.
Depends on what kind of website we are talking about.
If it’s a website whose purpose to display an article or images or similar, I agree with you.
If its main purpose is something that requires interaction by the user (i.e. it’s a “web app”), then it’s not a reasonable expectation that it should work without JS, and then I agree with the OP.
Even “web apps” don’t necessarily need javascript. Is a forum a web app? It has plenty of user interaction and forums without javascript have existed since before HTML. Even stuff like Mastodon doesn’t necessarily need javascript, it can work as static pages.
I agree that these are more of a continuum than a binary.
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Nah, it’s more because they want everything in the same place. Reddit and Discord became the “internet forum” - 1 account, 1 site/app, every community and discussion you need. Same for Roblox
The other reason is the dopamine hit of endless doomscrolling. If you think about it, most online interaction is: upvoting/liking, commenting, sharing; which I would argue is just a bare minimum of interactivity.
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Of the two, only discord actually really needs javascript to work as intended on a browser. Reddit, though? It’s still a static web forum, you don’t lose much browsing old.reddit instead of www.reddit.
Besides, I never argued those two are not “rich web applications”, my point was that “static web content looks dated” wasn’t the main driver for people to move into centralized platforms.
Web apps predate JavaScript by many years. The kids writing websites these days just don’t know how.
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