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IME, they’re all the same chipset/set of chipsets and are all pretty awful.
That said, the most reliable ones I’ve found actually come from drives that have been shucked. Western Digital or whomever aren’t going to do the absolute lowest price piece of shit enclosure for something they’re going to warranty for 3 or 5 years, so those have been what I try to find and have had reasonable luck with them in terms of reliability and not-catching-shit-on-fire.
Usually cheap as shit on eBay or whatever, since they’re basically the packaging trash around something that was purchased for the gooey insides.
I’m more interested in multi-bay enclosures, but as you said, the chipsets tend to be kinda crappy. And that’s what makes me hesitate to use these mini PCs, my use-case is for a NAS, but these enclosures are kind of expensive and seem to have pretty poor components.
So for now, I’m using larger cases to hold the drives. But it takes up a lot of desk space, so these mini PCs are very attractive, if I can get a compact external enclosure to work.
Yeah, I’ve never seen a multi-bay enclosure that doesn’t just randomly decide it’s done with this bullshit and have random dropouts or just plain fucking off entirely.
I don’t know WHY they’re so bad, but they are :/
I just converted part of a closet to a network closet and added some shelves and stuffed everything in there, though I know that’s not an option everyone has.
Yeah I ran ethernet everywhere when I bought my house and it’s fantastic. Multi-gig everywhere!
I’m also never fucking doing that again because the builder of my house must have gotten a fantastic fucking deal 120 years ago on 2x4s, because they decided to do a narrow cross-bracing between studs on every damn wall, so I had fucking rock-hard old growth 2x4s to drill through every 14 inches or so in every damn wall I was running cables on.
Killed several hundred dollars in drill bits and other tools (broke a few fish tapes!) getting this shit done, AND it took like a month to get finished and then the walls patched where I had to cut into it to see what in the fuck the drill was hitting.
Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about. Fortunately, the previous owner seemed obsessed with phone and coax jacks, so almost every room has at least one of them. I could just run ethernet over those jacks, but I might be able to attach a string to them to pull in a proper ethernet cable. Then again, maybe I’ll just end up needing to drill new holes, idk.
Make sure you come back and update me when you try it, and then find out that the cables are all stapled to the studs.
That’s always extra fun to discover once you start running cabling.
Though, if you have good coax everywhere, MOCA is a legitimate option you should be considering, as it’ll do gigabit (more than, even) and the adapters aren’t particularly expensive compared to dealing with having to pull cabling through everywhere.
Good point, I’ll consider MOCA. The main problem is that we have three sets (OTA antenna, satellite, and internet), and I’m not sure which are which, but figuring that out should be quite a bit easier than running cable. :)
I’m not planning on getting anything more than gigabit in the near future, though my city is rolling out fiber and claims to support up to 10gbit.
Well, if you have your preference, go with it. The base thing is to stick with a company with a solid reputation that was a warranty and isn’t disappearing overnight.
The thing is, I don’t know what “well known brands” are in that space. It’s not something I buy frequently.
IME, they’re all the same chipset/set of chipsets and are all pretty awful.
That said, the most reliable ones I’ve found actually come from drives that have been shucked. Western Digital or whomever aren’t going to do the absolute lowest price piece of shit enclosure for something they’re going to warranty for 3 or 5 years, so those have been what I try to find and have had reasonable luck with them in terms of reliability and not-catching-shit-on-fire.
Usually cheap as shit on eBay or whatever, since they’re basically the packaging trash around something that was purchased for the gooey insides.
I’m more interested in multi-bay enclosures, but as you said, the chipsets tend to be kinda crappy. And that’s what makes me hesitate to use these mini PCs, my use-case is for a NAS, but these enclosures are kind of expensive and seem to have pretty poor components.
So for now, I’m using larger cases to hold the drives. But it takes up a lot of desk space, so these mini PCs are very attractive, if I can get a compact external enclosure to work.
Yeah, I’ve never seen a multi-bay enclosure that doesn’t just randomly decide it’s done with this bullshit and have random dropouts or just plain fucking off entirely.
I don’t know WHY they’re so bad, but they are :/
I just converted part of a closet to a network closet and added some shelves and stuffed everything in there, though I know that’s not an option everyone has.
Yeah, I’d need to run cable if I moved my machines to a closet, and I’m putting that off. I do plan to do that though, so maybe someday. :)
Yeah I ran ethernet everywhere when I bought my house and it’s fantastic. Multi-gig everywhere!
I’m also never fucking doing that again because the builder of my house must have gotten a fantastic fucking deal 120 years ago on 2x4s, because they decided to do a narrow cross-bracing between studs on every damn wall, so I had fucking rock-hard old growth 2x4s to drill through every 14 inches or so in every damn wall I was running cables on.
Killed several hundred dollars in drill bits and other tools (broke a few fish tapes!) getting this shit done, AND it took like a month to get finished and then the walls patched where I had to cut into it to see what in the fuck the drill was hitting.
But yeah, ethernet everywhere is great!
Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about. Fortunately, the previous owner seemed obsessed with phone and coax jacks, so almost every room has at least one of them. I could just run ethernet over those jacks, but I might be able to attach a string to them to pull in a proper ethernet cable. Then again, maybe I’ll just end up needing to drill new holes, idk.
I’m just not looking forward to doing it is all.
Make sure you come back and update me when you try it, and then find out that the cables are all stapled to the studs.
That’s always extra fun to discover once you start running cabling.
Though, if you have good coax everywhere, MOCA is a legitimate option you should be considering, as it’ll do gigabit (more than, even) and the adapters aren’t particularly expensive compared to dealing with having to pull cabling through everywhere.
Good point, I’ll consider MOCA. The main problem is that we have three sets (OTA antenna, satellite, and internet), and I’m not sure which are which, but figuring that out should be quite a bit easier than running cable. :)
I’m not planning on getting anything more than gigabit in the near future, though my city is rolling out fiber and claims to support up to 10gbit.
Then just go with the warranty. Good brands are obviously well known: Cooler Master, Corsair, TerraMaster, Orico, ASUS…etc.
I honestly have never used either of these, yet they show up at a lot of retailers.
ASUS is a bit sketchy these days IMO, so I try to avoid them.
Well, if you have your preference, go with it. The base thing is to stick with a company with a solid reputation that was a warranty and isn’t disappearing overnight.