And Arch is right fucking there
And Holo ISO if you don’t want to fully configure.
The internet connection is my limiting factor. 15GB or on lunch/break. 😭
Portal is crisp and clean.
I heard Fallout 4 is good.
OOTP could run on an XP machine from 2003.
The idea of a console where the manufacturer doesn’t have total control over the OS is ludicrous, no way a Windows box is ever going to “kill” the deck
Difference between a console and a PC is that the OS is open source
Yeah, Sony lost me when they broke my Linux install and degraded the DVD playback functions, within six months of me buying my PS2. Similarly, the last “good” smartphone I had, was the Palm Treo (650p\680p\Centro); since then, I’ve never had a single phone that granted direct hardware access & allowed unloading/sideloading the OS by default.
Manufacturers want deep control these days; way beyond mere root permissions.
Also funny how they keep adding shit no one needs that just makes battery life worse
Yes let me drop $700 on a handheld so I can play it plugged in on the couch
What, are you saying this 7", 1600p, 120Hz display is a stupid choice for a handheld? How dare you!
Adding what exactly?
According to the totally impartial LTT review of the Ally it’s worse than the Deck in every way but if it’s plugged in and you’re using a kb+m then it’s only a slightly underpowered laptop and you should totally buy it over the Deck
So I guess the “power modes” that can’t run on battery
Fucking hell the “Steam Deck killers” is a stupid trend.
They really do hit you with all the specs that are supposed to put the deck to shame, but the reveal their ludicrous price, completely ignoring the major advance the things has.
That’s a simple trick, but cheap and dirty, so it’s pretty garbo anyway. No respect for handhelds themselves or anyone reviewing them or taking any sponsorship that do anything like that.
Totally agree.
Not only they can’t sell the device at a loss, but also they have to use Windows for driver compatibility.
What’s holding back the Steam Deck, and the whole gaming on the go, it’s x86. For the rest, it’s x86 plus Windows plus drivers.
The one to win will be who makes a tightly coupled device that’s also efficient. Apple is good at that, but has nowhere near the catalogue than Steam and lacks a Steamworks SDK.
Intel meteor lake looks very appealing for next Gen consoles
I’ve heard that story a lot of times. Also, next gen consoles are going AMD unless Intel bows really down, which I haven’t seen in my lifetime.
Wouldn’t it be rather simple to install Linux on them though?
You could, but what makes Steam Deck special is that it’s SteamOS is built specifically for that hardware, enabling functions you wouldn’t normally see in gaming PC hardware.
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At least one of the main features is seamless suspend/resume. Not sure what the state of that is on Windows but I’ve seen a lot of people mention that SD feature specifically.
The difference is that if the device comes with Steam OS, then it’s ready to go out of the box and you’re assured the hardware has good Linux support.
If it’s originally a Windows device then you may have to jump through additional hoops to get everything working. Also you’ll have to deal with allowing other OS’s in the BIOS if it’s locked.
Also you’ve paid Microsoft for a license you won’t use.
The flip side is that there’s work to make a native Steam OS build for 3rd party portable devices:
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I suppose. But then why not steam deck?
If you like the hardware of one of the others more. I think the Legion Go looks pretty sweet. Wonder if it could make a good daily driver even.
I used the steam deck as a daily driver between laptops. It was good enough to the point that if I had a decent mobile monitor, I would consider it exclusively for a travel rig.
Outside of the better gpu, the one advantage the other devices have is emulation. Steamdeck sits on the edge of performance for some of the harder to emulate devices heavy titles (PS3, Switch). The ones using Ryzen 3/4 would trivially handle emulation better than the Steamdecks CPU, which uses Ryzen 1+ (part of the reason why its low cost)
I’ve got an external monitor and my full keyboard and mouse with a dock and my steam deck. I can set up anywhere with a desk and game, program, whatever. I’ve found very little that it can’t handle.
I am looking specifically for a single device for travelling with. But the built in controllers of the Steamdeck are just a little too goofy for me to give it much serious consideration.
A tablet form-factor Steamdeck? I’d be sold.
You might think that. But consider that there will likely be fully functional keyboards via those same controllers.
I used mine for travel in business. it performed fine. It was nice to not have have a separate key board (although I did keep one with me).
I doubt I’m going to write much code on a controller I’m afraid.
Thats your business and your use case may differ. My use case is wearing leather jackets with shoulder pads while standing outside isolated telephone booths..
I really think if they keyboard was sufficient it would actually be kindof fun to program this way.
I thought that valve even allowed other companies to use the steam deck software on their own hardware.
I’m pretty sure its just a linux distro anyone can use, maybe even open source.
Manufacturers will choose the sweet microsoft money tho they get per device with windows preinstalled.
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I think GPD offers SteamOS copies for their devices.
Imho, the Steam Deck will be the only one with a really long product lifetime. Simply because Valve’s main business is selling games, not consoles. The Deck makes people buy more/different games. Worked on me. I haven’t played much in the last decade because I was too tired to play at my PC after work. Now I can play everywhere. Couch, bed, car, … Basically every other manufacturer makes money exactly once by selling such a console. As soon as their marketing is done with it, they’ll release a new revision and you won’t see a single software update for the old model ever again.
Yup, there are a number of features for Valve to do this right:
supporting linux frees them of the eternal windows shackles that pc-gaming has become, diversifies steam as a multi-platform service (not just pc gaming juggernaut) without encroaching on anyone else’s terrain, and gets their user’s enormous libraries out into the world, potentially enabling new kinds of games in the future.
That’s because normal Linux won’t be as optimised but unlike Valve they don’t want to put actual work into optimising it.
Less “not optimized”, & more “not supported”; IE, accelerations that don’t turn on, because companies like Intel, Broadcom, Samsung, & NVidia, have a long history of only giving preferred partner devteams, prerelease hardware access, much less any peeks at unobfuscated firmware.
Where are the true killers with arm based chips? And how is the linux version of rosetta 2 doing? Can we run x86 games on arm Linux?
Don’t Apple’s chips have specific hardware support to make Rosetta 2 as effective as it is? I’ve been really hoping other manufacturers find a way to do something similar.
Yes they do, and you can bet that’ll go away as soon as Apple thinks x86 isn’t important (to them).
And how is the linux version of rosetta 2 doing?
What? You mean how is the linux version of mac version of qemu? Alive and kicking! Same for box86 and box64. Binary tralsators existed before Apple started making x86 computers.
Not so bad if you can just install another OS to 'em like they were just little mobile computers.
Explain joke please? How does a blurry photograph taken from the inside of a refrigerator relate to a Windows handheld gaming device?
It’s a gif, I had to tap on it before it played (on Jerboa)
OHHHHHH thank you