what is better for single user instance, or maybe something small like under 10 users (no communities)? which is lighter on resources? how much storage should I allocate?

any alternatives to lemmy and kbin that are still somewhat similar?

    • Jamie@jamie.moe
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      My Lemmy instance is currently occupying about 350MB of RAM, but you can round that up to 400MB. A lot less than the 4GB for KBin.Technically it’s a dual user instance now, since a friend wanted to join it and I said sure.

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        Keep in mind as php-fpm (used by Kbin) launches multiple child processes instead of a single rust process like Lemmy. The number of child processes can be tuned down to reduce RAM usage if necessary.

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        Damn, this is so much worse than good ol’ RSS for just following up stuff (which I imagine is the main argument to be made for a single-usee instance)

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          The arguments for are varied. I don’t have to worry about any admins making decisions on federation, I can federate (or not) however I please. I have my own space that I can do what I want with in a familiar format, and I can make my username Jamie without it being taken.

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            Yep, making federation decisions myself is why I want to spin up my own instance at some point, and I have spare computing resources as is already lol

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            My other reason is that it’s the only way to know I picked an instance that isn’t going to just go away without me and take my account with it. It will be an interesting day when the first major lemmy instance goes down…

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          After almost 24 hours, coming up on 662MB of images, and 371MB for the postegres database. Though, I could see the numbers fluctuating depending on how much stuff you’re subscribed to. I’m currently subscribed to 31 communities, most of them fairly large.

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    I was also looking into both but in the end I chose lemmy because I didn’t want to deal with PHP.

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      Far, far lighter on RAM for sure. Less than half a gig for Lemmy, multiple gigs for KBin

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    I’m a PHP developer, I prefer PHP but I’m probably going to be going with Lemmy since it’s more refined currently.

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    I’m definitely interested in seeing how the single-user instance offerings develop across the various federated applications. I have no interest in taking on the role of admin or moderator for people I don’t know personally, but am more than happy to run my own front-end service that’ll let me lurk and interact with all varieties of ActivityPub content.

    For now it seems kbin might win that fight for me since it’s equipped to handle reddit-style communities and threads while also providing a workable microblog interface. But it does seem to be a bit on the heavy side… I wonder if we might see some software created for this particular usage scenario one day, if it isn’t already being worked on somewhere.

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      If big instances like Beehaw go whitelist federation only, it will effectively make single user instances useless.

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        Certainly a possibility, but I don’t really expect it to be a common concern. Defederation is mostly about keeping problematic people out when an instance’s admins either can’t or won’t resolve whatever problem is at play. Most instances will never even realize a single-user instance is lurking at all if they don’t bother to crawl the logs and said user doesn’t cause a scene.

        I’d expect most whitelist-only instances will have been that way from the start instead of growing large and then shutting the door, because the goals of running an instance like that are fundamentally different.

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          Yeah, I think a whitelist only instance would to dramatically limit its users to be generally attractive for most people, and would certainly keep it from becoming popular. They are surely use cases for it but pretty limited I’d imagine.