In all honesty I just use the browser now as that’s been the best experience with Discord for me.
Yup this. Tho if matrix gets desktop streaming I’m gone.
Element already has desktop streaming as an experimental feature. Worked fine last i tested it. Currently planning how to trick my social circle into using it.
I also want to go check out the new TeamSpeak, it’s supposed to be a decent Discord alternative - Even though Discord originally replaced it.
That’s great news. Well now discord rewards users for viewing ads, it’s looking like time to leave soon.
I fucking hate discord. Hope they ruin it.
Discord was really good in the first couple years. Way better than the alternatives in almost everything except sound quality. And getting virusses wasn’t as easy as it was on TeamSpeak3 back then.
Thats the thing…there’s no way ill convince people to get off discord now that they just got comfortable with it all.
Fr, I have tried but unfortunately my friends are mostly normal people
Yeah exactly or they just say we are trying to be superior and annoying tech autists xD
I have been using Discord since the beginning in 2015 and back then I got people to Discord because it was cheap and offered more features. Currently the only way I convince people to swtich from Discord (or from Whatsapp) is either if they are privacy focussed or the alternative is way more convient or cheaper.
How did you solve the audio issue with element for Linux?
Element has audio issues on Linux? Didn’t notice it when I tested whether Matrix had what I needed (a month past). I’ll see if it screws up if I try again now.
Audio doesn’t seem to stream over Element regardless of operating system, I’m on Debian 12 and my buddies are on Windows, neither stream audio.
Also Mobile devices lack streaming out-right.
That’s weird. I just tested it with a friend (I’m on Endeavour, she’s on Win11, the server is VPS with Debian running the newest Synapse and Element-web). Audio works fine both ways with no mic config required, streaming is a little laggy when viewing the screen and stream next to each other, but that’s all.
EDIT: No, you’re right. Audio within streams seem to fail. I remember Discord having the same problem (hence why I use Vesktop), but if Windows also suffers this shortcoming? I’m pretty sure I remember it working a month ago, so there should be a bug report in Synapse (or element).
This has been an issue for over 4 years. not sure why it seems to be neglected by the maintainers/contributors.
Edit: Maybe it was patched? I don’t have the time at the moment to dive deep into this topic, will try to get back to this later today.
Edit 2: briefly looking around seems like this persisted in 2023
get fluffychat :)
When you use the Discord app, you use a browser - Chromium specifically: Discord is an electro app.
In other word, if you already run a browser that burns hundreds of megabytes of RAM, disk, and requires tons of CPU do display simplistic things, as browsers do, you might as well use it to access Discord instead of running a second insanely wasteful browser disguised as a native app.
Vesktop
Discord has become really annoying to use with all the ads. I confine it to my browser because I don’t trust it.
With that said, I used to run Flatpak version and it never had this issue.
Oh shit I forgot that was an option lmao. Deleting the app once I get home lol
Same! Never have to worry about updates anymore its great!
Recently, while it was “out of date” and refusing to run but not yet updated in the Arch repo, I started wondering why I don’t just use the website. I now use the website.
Third party apps are way better than the native client
When I do, audio slowly shifts to one ear only, perhaps over 20m. Then I have to leave the channel and come back to reset it. This does not happen anywhere else, and also doesn’t happen on the desktop app, so I have to use that.
My experience with Discord, period:
Thank God im not the only one. I feel like I’m going crazy when all my friends do nothing but worship discord.
Not at all. I loathe discord with a passion. I can’t understand how such a unintuitive piece of software gained such mainstream acceptance.
What do you find unintuitive? Of all the complaints I personally never found it unintuitive to use.
Everything? It’s hard to describe, but anytime I want to do anything, it just seems like the menu is in the wrong spot, or I have to jump through hoops to do what needs to get done.
That would be from the 8 redesigns they’ve done in the past year or so. Not going to praise the dumpster fire, but intuitiveness has not been an issue for most of discords common uses. If you were incessantly messing with settings of a server though, that’d track.
Oh, this is day one, I have loaded it up like once in the last year. I’m not the only one who says it either. Back in the day on reddit, I’d post about it and would always have tons of people agree.
I can deal with Gimp and all kinds of alt versions of popular software all day long with minimal hassle learning new UI. Discord, for being the most popular software of its platform, for some reason, just doesn’t click for me. Why ventrillo didn’t keep the crown amazes me.
I’ll just go back to being the old man yelling at the clouds.
I fail to see Discord as anything other than IRC with too many emojis and primary colors for the short of attention span, implemented as a humongous pile of Web 2.0 nonsense, with Big Data surveillance built in.
Privacy and resource comsumption issues notwithstanding, the few times I’ve had to use it to connect with people in certain communities that could basically only be found on Discord, it was unbearable to this gen-Xer: it’s just as fast and as shallow as IRC, but somehow I feel the extra symbolic and color overload would have triggered a seizure if I was epileptic. It’s maddering.
Oh well, maybe I’m old.
I’ve never really seen that much color on it, but I use dark mode so its basically just dark gray and white font, we transitioned from slack a few years ago when I joined a community for drone stuff but over time people stopped flying drones and played games more
My understanding is that the core appeal is that they provide free private VoIP service, which was something that a lot of people wanted for multiplayer games.
I don’t use that, and like you, I have not been very impressed with their chat stuff.
That’s why I use third party apps
~/.config/discord/settings.json
"SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": true,
Ooohh a useful response.
Wait seriously? Does this stop it from forcing me to update it when an update is available but it’s not in my package manager yet?
Yes. I can confirm, it works even on Gentoo. But I stick to the Flatpak version, anyway, because there I was able to tell it to use Xwayland instead of wayland directly (through Flatseal).
It seems the wayland support isn’t great yet and it tries to grab keys combination that are reserved for my window manager (Gnome). In the flatpak sandbox I don’t have any issues.
Only game running game detection will not work in the sandbox.
Or is there even a setting to tell it, using the X11 backend so that the keybind issues for the native version go away?
I mean there is always the flatpak version
I must be getting old.
Yep. I didn’t realize the flatpak version worked better. I never get those manual update prompts anymore and Software Center automatically updates Discord when there are updates.
Came here to say this. I was dealing with constant required .deb downloads and switched to flatpak. All the noise stopped.
I actually use the Vesktop Flatpak. It’s got working screen sharing with audio on Wayland (not sure if the official client has implemented that yet) and it has Vencord preinstalled for plugins and themes.
Use the Flatpak or better yet stop using Discord.
It is so annoying when communities really want to have a discord. Particularly when they are somewhat technical and so any solutions that they might have are not search able.
communities really want to have a discord
And
they are somewhat technical
Something seems fishy.
The flatpak has (had?) Issues of not being able to stream application or desktop audio. The system package can and is way more up to date.
Flatpak is not the solution to everything lolThat’s a wayland specific issue and I believe the Flatpack version was right behind the version that finally fixed that about 3 months ago. It should have the good version finally but I won’t bother to check.
Im not using wayland lol
Too many issues in linux mint (cinnamon) last time i tried :')
Using the flatpak version on Fedora. That issue seems to be recently solved not sure when exactly just tried it the other day and it worked!
Thats good to hear. Might have to switch back to the flatpack then!
I believe the audio streaming issue on flatpak is resolved as of a month or two ago. But I’m typically with you, system packages for the most up to date experience in most cases.
I never said it was. The Discord Flatpak always worked for me. Not saying it didn’t for you, it just hasn’t been my experience.
Flatpaks are a really bad idea.
Because?
If you really need to use discord, use the flatpak version or better yet, use Vesktop.
This. Use Vesktop. Expand the features of Discord while outright blocking the shit.
Seconded on Vesktop. Much better than Discord’s plain client.
Or better yet, host your own TeamSpeak server.
Speaking of which, are there any decent FOSS alternatives? Discord got banned in my homecountry and forcing it through VPN or proxy is a total pain in the ass. Forced my friends to move to TS as that’s what we used back in the day… like a decade ago, but maybe there’s something modern and more open nowadays?
Teamspeak doesn’t even have a fraction of Discord’s features. It’s a bad alternative.
from what i know either Matrix or Revolt
Revolt is more closer to discord but Matrix is better cause it has ee2e, you can host your own server and my favorite feature ClientsThere was a post recently on c/privacy for a self hostable (relaying) peer-to-peer web based option! Its effectively release 1.0 and has some bugs (some serious security ones at the moment), but I think it has lots of promise!!
I’ll go grab the link for the post I saw…
Are you looking for something like mumble?
Yeah, voice chat is all we need.
Get yourself a cheap root server, install murmur and never look back.
teamspeak 6 (beta) is pretty nice.
Sick! Are you running a Linux client? Last I checked the self-hosted V6 server binary hadn’t released, if it’s finally out I’ll drop a brick!!
no, but afaik you can join ts3 servers on ts6, also tgey have a linux client. but im currently unsure if i installed it via pacman or AUR, but you can download a binary from their website
Nah, still no v6 server. At least, not on their main download page 🥲
Peersuite
Discord is trash software. Always has been.
Are there better alternatives you don’t have to self host?
It’s missing a field for multi-chat rooms.
Isn’t that just group chats? Or what do you mean with multi chat rooms?
Discord has a group chat feature and drag doesn’t really use it. It’s not what drag wants. Drag wants rooms with many chats inside. Permissions, topics, threads. A sorted hierarchy of chats with a sense of place.
Frankly, no, they all come with some caveat.
Revolt. It just needs a larger userbase.
Centralized service with questionable moderation
XMPP
Honestly people should go back to writing letters
i just use this bad boy
Btw
Was going to say. I’ve been lucky. My only experience with Discord has been
sudo pacman -S discord. I barely use it, but I have some friends I keep in touch with on it.Yay!
Hell yeah
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Based and nixpilled
Goofcord is privacy hardened vesktop
use the browser
All that work, and it’s a web wrapper.
When l was on it I saw no point in running it outside a browser tab
Flatpak
So. Very important for everyone here. You can bypasss the forced discord update.
I’m running with native electron (sure, electron) but it works great tbh
check out vencord (or vesktop) just in time for discord to completely enshittify. while you’re looking, consider something like revolt chat instead?
Oh that looks nice! I was using Dissent which is very light on resources but I kept running on a couple issues. I’ll try that.
Another one I can recommend is equibop (web version wrap of Discord) and equicord (discord client modification with vencord)
Since the latest big discord update I had issues with Vesktop, other people could only watch my streams if they were in it when I started streaming and even then it usually would break after a few minutes. But I might try it again in the next few days to see if it got fixed
Edit: I quickly checked the GitHub repo and the latest release was 2 months ago so probably not :(
Revolt is still extremely beta, at least last I checked it out?
Vesktop (on flatpak I believe) is just a discord wrapper with plugin support, actually a really great experience!!
Still, here’s hoping literally any FOSS discord clone gets fully off the ground sometime soon. The enshitification is so fucking real.
Why do you need to update so much, Discord? What the hell are you doing? Suspicious. Very suspicious.
Does the same on windows. Either they’re constantly changing some really deep stuff that we don’t see or notice, or it’s not actually updating just “checking” for updates or loading but it’s just slow AF.
Nah, this isn’t the launcher doing checks and applying patches, I mean like I gotta download a new .deb (basically .exe) file with an incremental difference in the version number and unpack it over the old install.
Ridiculously frequently. Like, once a week at the very least.
Okay Jesus, I think that’s just someone at discord smoking something.
Just use a flatpak sheesh
