Luigi (with Linux Mint logo) and Mario (Ubuntu logo) come in

Mother: It’s-a the Ubuntu Bros!

Linux Mint (Luigi): Mama why-a you never remember my name?

Mother: I’m-a sorry Green Ubuntu

  • cameron_vale@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

    It comes with like 6 desktops right in the installation. And there are another 20 more available too.

    And ubuntu etc is just debian with a fancy desktop, right?

    And debian is fast, lightweight and stable as heck. Don’t they use it on the spaceshuttle?

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        7 months ago

        Don’t you just love how with phones you don’t really have one?

        Google is breaking their backs locking down Android tighter than a nun’s cooch, and generally enshitifyijg every garbage product they offer. Where’s my third fucking option?

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          Well sure, but if i have to figure out what to get, where to get it, how to install a driver from a tar.gz file, maybe i just install ubuntu instead.
          I opted for fedora instead, until it died on an nvidia update (as every distro inevitably seems to do with me) and fucked off back to windows. Linux desktop has not treated me well so far in any case.

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        No need, if Ubuntu works out of the box then Debian also works most of the time. I’ve never had to install drivers for ethernet or wifi. The installer is a bit less graphical, but it will connect in a few “clicks”, even wifi works for the installer.

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      My guess is: Too outdated packages. Debian experimental fixes this, but it’s not noob friendly to enable those. And flatpack is too recent.

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        This was the one for me, was running Debian a few years ago, I was really happy with how everything worked.

        But at work I noticed a lot of tools I needed where pretty old. Like an old version of maven or an old version of Firefox or npm.

        You can probably work around it, but I just went back to Mint again.

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      Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

      Debian is good, but people working on polishing a thing from 9 to 5, 5 days a week can do a lot.

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      ubuntu has firewall protection already to go. I heard if you used debian you have to install UFW or other things on your own

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          For everything? You still shouldnt be running all ports open around. As it would ease the work of hackers getting backdoor access.

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            So just close the ports (or more precise: Do not open them, as “closed” is the default for most software on Linux).

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              Yup, and if some bad software wants to create malicious webserver they can not do it as all the ports that are open are used in a legit way. And thus can not really communicate either one or the other way.

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                A webserver listens on port 80 or 443. Neither port can be claimed by a normal user (no port below 1024 can). But yes if you manage more than your own user on a desktop AND these other users are not allowed to start programs on their own THEN a firewall can be helpful; but this is not a normal situation for a desktop-client, isn’t it?

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        I think the real time requirement can be relaxed for self contained experiment packages. And given that the shuttle ran a healthy number of student experiments, it’s pretty likely that X system has appeared.

        I believe crew laptops for email and stuff are also running non real-time systems.