• Kairos@lemmy.today
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    18 hours ago

    These people are indistinguishable from my grandparents when it comes to using tech

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    if they’re using class=“card” then they’re likely using something like bootstrap in which the CSS is largely handled for you anyway

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      Fun fact, people often use css frameworks as a starting point and override a lot of built in classes to add their own look.

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        Although it has lead to every website have that 2/3/4 column look for about 10 years at least. Widescreen monitors have 50% of the space wasted,

        I think it was Grid that started it, had 12 columns you could divvy up with a load of weird classes, and then a version of grid got added to the CSS standard instead so now it’s just there.

        You can still make CSS from scratch, but I can see why a beginner would go with Bootstrap or whatever.

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    There was a time where people were made fun of for saying they program in HTML. Now some people proudly explains you to use AI to write it. The same type of people use LLM as a calculator and are in awe for its publiposting capacities. Wait for the day they would program a AI to print on carbon paper. Two copy for one file in memory!!

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    this has to be satire right? please someone tell me he’s only joking. please.

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      I’m reading the whole thread on xcancel and I’m wondering if they’re all in on the joke / trolling or …

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    You can also save up to 100% by externalizing the HTML part too

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        The story behind the blink tag is so ridiculous.

        At some point in the evening I mentioned that it was sad that Lynx was not going to be able to display many of the HTML extensions that we were proposing, I also pointed out that the only text style that Lynx could exploit given its environment was blinking text. We had a pretty good laugh at the thought of blinking text, and talked about blinking this and that and how absurd the whole thing would be. … Saturday morning rolled around and I headed into the office only to find what else but, blinking text. It was on the screen blinking in all its glory, and in the browser. How could this be, you might ask? It turns out that one of the engineers liked my idea so much that he left the bar sometime past midnight, returned to the office and implemented the blink tag overnight. He was still there in the morning and quite proud of it.

      • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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        https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/blink_element

        While initially popular, <blink> became much maligned because of overuse; many people found it annoying. More importantly, it degrades readability and can be particularly problematic for users with visual impairments or cognitive disorders such as epilepsy or ADHD. It can be disorienting or, in the worst cases, even trigger seizures.

        tbf it’s a valid reason to drop its support

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          I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Geocities pages suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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        Nope. That element never existed. It was <blink>text</blink>

        Besides a selfclosing <blink/> would make no sense.

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    They didn’t think of just letting it generate the text (usually Markdown) and then processing it to HTML?

    Wait, the LLM does the “thinking” there.

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      I assume that if it isn’t already happening, future models will have instructions to maximize token usage.

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      I assume there’s some context for why there is an argument to begin with between whether to prompt for markdown vs html, and what this is actually for

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        Embrace it. Teach these people how to use data URIs to “embed images into the HTML file”, then laugh when they burn even more tokens.

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        AI is here. Deal. With It. Your authoritarian chains have been shattered, knowledge Nazi. No longer will creation be a luxury for the mentally wealthy. It has now been fully democratized so that even republican voters will be able to code soon.

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      These are the CEOs that are replacing the workforce with AI. I fear for the future of humanity. Everything will be endless slop, with pre-slop era knowledge sold on a black market.

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        In at most 5 years from now there will never be a better time to be a senior developer.

        Shit is already cracking (just look at all the spectacularly stupid bugs and deeply flawed design choices that MS has had recently with Windows 11) and we’ve barelly started experiencing what happens when AI coded software goes through the full software life-cycle - the kind of thing where code done by junior developers almost innevitably fails is the indirect stuff like maintenability or security practices and AI is basically a junior developer which NEVER LEARNS no matter how much you explain something to it even whilst telling you it has totally understood what you mean.

        Imagine that all of a sudden a large fraction of corporate software development is made entirelly by teams of junior developers who have such a high turnaround that every week the team changes (so you can’t ever help them learn to avoid certain kinds of errors and they never improve). Now fast forward this a couple of years and imagine what happens when all the software done by those devs has been on the Internet a couple of years exposed to all kinds of attackers, gone thorough a couple of cycles of bug-fixing and working new business requirements into it or they’ve been used for long enough by users that the data storages have been storing a year of two of data, all stored according to junior developer’s idea of what and how data should be stored.

        Shit crashing with the most stupid bugs, hacked by script kiddies running 1990s scripts because even there is no proper defensive coding for Internet exposed software or it’s riddled with holes from mis-integration of different parts, years of use leading to systems massivelly slowing down to a crawl because databases don’t have the right indices and where the same data is stored multiple times and thus riddled with inconsistent data, pretty much instant spaghettification of the code-base and especially at the design level with each different block of code generated by AI being inconsistent in coding style and software design with every other AI generated block of code, constant and massive integration problems with systems not being at all prepared for upstream data format flaws or with erroneous assumptions and just about every software change breaking downstream systems, the entire life-cycle of software systems from greenfield project to “so unmaintainable it’s cheaper to rewrite it from scratch” running in less than a year rather than 5 or 10 years with entirelly new vibe-coded versions of the software coming out every year WITH DIFFERENT BUGS and DIFFERENT USER INTERFACES with DIFFERENT QUIRKS.

        Basically every concern above junior developer level being mishandled in random ways and places even in the same code-base.

        This shit is what the adoption of AI coding will deliver us.

        Again, look at Windows 11 - we’re already seeing the rates of bugs and the gravity of them going back to how it was back in the 90s and the stupidity and obviousness of the errors exceeding even that early era of early professionalization of software development.

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          But look at how many lines of code we shipped 🤣

          I have visions of a “workaround stack” which is just layers upon layers of catching edge-cases without ever addressing core logic and we end up with some Rube Goldberg-ass codebases.